Arvol uses a high profile location, to create another Media Hype Campaign that will generate social tension and unrest, by trying to put the blunt of responsibility on Forestry for having to extinguish a Fire.
canceled a special use permit that was issued for a Fire at San Francisco Peaks in Arizona. Arvol accuses Forestry of violating human rights, desecrating sacred land, and continuing over 500 years of genocide, while he uses the youth to exploit ancestry, culture and tradition for recognition and awareness. press release by Brett Ramey here (whoa! press release removed 7-15-2012)
Basically the same AIMster programing is being used to tap into the youth’s frustrations, angers and ignorance with indoctrinating talks of massacres, genocide, government oppression, setting them up to attack like the armored dogs of the Conquistadors.
video by: youtube user LinDaPimp
Considering the design of the fire pit, I can not see any reason for the FS to have made a decision to
cancel the special use permit, the design seems to create a very low possibility for fire no matter how dry/arid the area might be. Then again, considering the climate of the 4corners region, timber burns extremely clean. Memories recall smokeless, red, orange, blue and white flames of fires in my past. Something is not being told here, and at this point , no one knows who is not telling what.
update: 7-10-2012 – Lies and deception enter the issue
Brett Ramey’s press release is half truth , Shawn Mulford refused the special use permit. The Forestry made exceptions for a closed area to be used. The area Shawn and the gathering group demanded would not be allowed a Fire due to excessive fuels in the area from a previous fire (fuels being charred timber and excess kindling on the ground).
The gathering group was notified well in advance, if a fire was built, Forestry would be forced to extinguish it, if the gathering did not do so on their own. Forestry Reply: What Shawn Mulford did and what Brett Ramey did not say in the press release
Brett Ramey who wrote the press release, who declares Ioway ancestry (kansas) , who grew up in the cities and farm life in Kansas, who lived very little if any rez life, who works with youth programs in flagstaff did not give the full facts. He is being used or a participant in the deception.
Still waiting to put faces, names to the “Indigenous Elders and Medicine Peoples Council” mentioned in the press release. After numerous requests for who they are, one name pops up so far, Bennett Lyons, Council Member, at a conference for the Indigenous Peoples Law & Policy Program Conference , at the University of Arizona, April 26-27, 2012. (2 months ago)
Bennett Lyons is listed as speaker about Language, Culture, Sacred Sites along with Sherri Mitchell. The conference unofficial transcripts April 27, includes Sherri Mitchell who is the Executive Director for Land & Peace Foundation who does legal representation for Sacred Site Protection and Religious Freedom, giving a speech on behalf of Bennett.
Bennett Lyons at the Conference
Bennett Lyons (Native Language): I came to deliver a message from my relatives. We got together and I know we are not given a lot of time and I mentioned that to them and they said, Pray anyway, and nobody can stop me from praying. I will keep on praying while Sherri Mitchell delivers the statement. (Sherri address’s the panel for Bennett)
There is no doubt in my mind the San Francisco Peak incident was staged to exploit culture and spirituality for Media Coverage and now it appears another reason might be for career goals ? Wondering if someone is trying to get in with the circle of S. James Anaya and if Anya himself might cash in on the exploitation.
The more i dig into this, the more humoring it gets because the unfolding of this issue is such a redundant script of AIM mentality and tactics. Very sad too, considering the way culture, a gathering and Fire is being “used”.
The saddest part is, if the above is valid, relative to exploitation, using one another and culture in these ways, People will say it is acceptable, because it is for the cause.
That is to say, it is ok to lie, decieve, use one another, exploit culture and spirituality because it will help aboriginal rights. Just where did those teachings come from, AIM.
Who will pop their head up next?
Shawn the guy in the video toted off by Forestry, apparently was advised in advance of the consequences prior to even opening up the Fire. Whoever was conducting this activity should have closed that fire before forestry got there, if they knew forestry was coming in to extinguish it, OR if it was not closed, whoever was conducting should have asked forestry for time to do so, before water was sprayed to extinguish.
Not that any of the above matters, because Forestry gave the members advanced notice not to open up a fire and the members did so anyhow. Before extinguishing the fire, Forestry asked for someone with the gathering group to close it, they refused.
I fail to understand why the responsible person or persons who generated that fire, opened a door and called upon ancestry, would not close the sitting in a formal peaceful manner. Instead those responsible, allowed that occurrence to turn into havoc. That is very disrespectful to everyone involved and any ill movement that might occur is the result of those who are arrogant. People who elect to align themselves with people that conduct in such ways, are assisting with the continuance of creating internal turmoil. The foundation for promoting division, unrest and hatred.
Jeff Osborn the forestry worker, out of respect, was the only person in the youtube audio that apologized for what was occurring.
Audio of YouTube in Text
starting at time interval 2:00 min;
fs> are you sure you want me to do this? (fs talking to gathering attendants, after Shawn was toted off)
> > No body here wants you to do this
> > it’s your consequences, you are going to pay your consequences
fs> i want you to do this, i really would like for you to put out the fire (forestry talking to gathering member expressing it’s best for him to close the fire)
> > you are going to harm yourself, watch what you are dong
fs> i have to put out the fire,
>> thats your choice, be careful for your family, you be careful, (background voice, comment about wounded knee massacre) , be careful for your children,
fs> (Jeff Olsen) alright, i apologize …. sound of water sprayed into pit
note: pipe is on stone wall of fire pit throughout the whole disruption, not being tended to
>> they will stay close to you, all of you, remember what you did
(background voice, “we have elders among us”) , this is a violation of our religious, is there a sheriff here? , i want him charged with a violation of our religious act
ALH > Jeff Osborn, you are violating our human rights , right now, as indigenous people to this land. You are desecrating sacred land, you are continuing over 500 years of genocide on people, that’s what you are doing right now, think about that, know that, NO, NO, NO this is you and more ranting
Jeff Osborn tries to reply, the group aggresses him verbally
>>> Time for you to go back across the water, back to Europe, that’s where you belong.
update 7-14-2012 – Who Arvol is Setting up Camp With
Craig J. Johnson: Just for everyone’s information, this was a group of native fundamentalist and NOT a tribe with 1000s of years of continued ceremonial use. The fire was put out because of extream fire danger. Which this group refused to accept even after being told that they could not start a fire in such a heavily fueled area.Friday at 4:30am
Craig J. Johnson: The thing is that many native Nations have performed ceremonies on the mountain in the past few weeks and they respect the increased fire danger, but this group of fundamentalist were the only group that refused to respect the no fire restriction.Friday at 4:56am
Craig J. Johnson: I know who they are because I met with them. I have spoke to many native peoples and tribes and this group is NOT a tribe but rather a group of people who express fundamental ideas. It’s not up to me to judge if their practices are legitimate, but I do know by definition they are a fundalmentalist group. I have been told by tribes that this group is not legitimate and do not practice authentic ceremonies.Friday at 6:13am
It is not necessary to “threaten or try to impose fear” through the use of ancestry, that is B.S , the act of using ancestry in such a way is abusive and an illness. It is very evident from the way this unfolded and the intent of the comments, that members primary concerns are not for ancestry or all people to be affected by this charade.
To verbally assault Forestry worker Jeff Osborn serves no purpose except to escalate tension and conflict. It falls right in line with the shAIMster mentality and character. The video shows such a fine example of shAIMster verbal assaults, like a pack of attack dogs, towards people that try to reply to questions posed.
The more I watch this mans actions, the more I wonder! Neat how he positions himself in the background of a weeping young woman, who likely does not comprehend the extent of how she is being used.
Whoever opens a Fire, takes on the responsibility to tend it as well as close it. The issue of the fire being place into a position of having to be closed, could have gone 2 directions. The responsible person doing so, or as it turned out, Forestry extinguished.
Out of respect for tradition, culture, ancestry and all parties to be affected, especially those who are up in arms about the outcome, had the responsible person closed the Fire, people would not be filled with higher levels of frustration, anger and hate, that they are projecting towards Forestry, so called “white” /people of European ancestry, outside religions and governments.
If the responsible person had_closed the Fire, people would still be upset, thou not near the degree that people are now because of “it” being forcefully extinguished by outside influences, which leaves it informally, not completely closed, in peace. Arvol should not have allowed this, that is his responsibility as a mentor.
In choosing the option of having the Fire forced closed, media attention is escalated turning the occurrence into a hyped up media show for recognition and awareness. It’s abuse of ancestry and spirituality.
If people are not able to see this character trait, then they deserve to stay within the grips of disrespect, abuse and manipulation that will move into future generations prompting violence towards others and one another.
update: 7-13-2012 – Keep in Mind
Who’s Original Home Lands are in Focus
I feel pretty confident in saying “if any of the spiritual councils within the 4 mountains were in support of this issue and how it was conducted , they would have spoken up by now.”
A Lakota and a Miccosoukee (from my understanding) claim rights to conduct a fire on San Francisco Peaks under the definition of “indigenous”. Neither of those people are aboriginal people of the region within the 4 mountains.
‘Aborigine’ comes from the Latin words ‘ab’ meaning from and ‘origine’ meaning beginning or origin. It expresses that Aboriginal people have been there from the beginning of time.
Aboriginal is an adjective and used to describe ‘Aboriginal people’, ‘Aboriginal rights’, etc’
People should really caution the term “indigenous” , it in no way implies “from the beginning” and it has an alternative in it’s definition,
There will come times, such as this, when interested parties will exploit the vagueness of it’s definition.
* having originated in and being produced, growing,
* living naturally in a particular region or environment
“little grandmother” could be indigenous by definition , if she lives naturally in the environment. Euell Gibbions is indigenous by definition since he lived naturally within the environment.
aboriginal, is fixed, no alternative in definition; being from the beginning of time
The grand pooh-pah of indian ceremony is still at it
Looking Horses plan to hand over our Freedom of Religion to US Govt control… Read More
There are no secrets, there is no magic, there is only common sense -RedRain-
Hopefully someday people will recognize
“the one who tries to hide what “it” don’t know to begin with.”
U.S. Forestry Contacts:
M. Earl Stewart Coconino Forest Supervisor
Phone: (928) 527-3600
Corbin Newman Regional Forester
U.S. Forest Service, Southwest Region
333 Broadway SE Albuquerque, NM
Janie Hipp Senior Adviser for Tribal Affairs USDA
Caption for photo above, with perspective of gathering group:
Released by SacredMountain Defenders, a group opposing a recreation project that is being developed on the mountain. Shawn Mulford who organized the gathering and media hype is a member of the SacredMountain Defenders. Brett Ramey’s who created the press release is also affiliated with that same group.
Chief Arvol Looking Horse onlooking as a U.S. Forest Service official puts down the ceremonial sacred fire on the Holy San Francisco Peaks, Arizona. The Traditional Cultural Gathering had been previously granted permission by the Forest Service. As the four day ceremony was initiated on July 4, the Forest Service Supervisor threatened the gathered Indigenous spiritual leaders, medicine people, and elders with legal implications if they keep the sacred fire alive.
Indigenous Elders and Medicine Peoples
July 6, 2012
“The Creator gave the Aboriginal Indigenous Nations of the People Laws to follow and responsibilities to care for all Creation. These instructions have been passed down from generation to generation from the beginning of Creation. It is the Law that no one can overpower the Creator’s Law, you are a part of Creation, thus if you break the Law, you are destroying yourself.
We speak on behalf of all Creation: the four legged/those that swim/those that crawl/those that fly/those that burrow in the Earth/the plant and tree Nations. This one life system includes the elements of fire, water, earth and air, the living environment of “Mother Earth”.
The Sanctity of the Creator’s Law has been broken. The balance of life has been disrupted. You come into life as a sacred being. If you abuse the sacredness of your life then you affect all Creation. The future of all life is now in jeopardy.
We have now reached the crossroads. As Aboriginal Indigenous People we ask you to work with us to save the future of all Creation.”
The Holy/Sacred Ceremonial Fire unites us as Aboriginal Indigenous Nations of the People on our threatened Holy/Sacred Mountain (San Francisco Peaks) on July 4-7th 2012.
The holy/sacred ceremonial fire renews our connection to all Creation, it carries our prayers and represents all life. When it pertains to our ceremony or ceremonial fire it is imperative for the Forest Service to acknowledge that the Indigenous Peoples are the sole authority on our culture and way of life and any decisions that do not attain our free, prior and informed consent are not consistent with the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
A great urgency is in our midst with the wind, water and fire showing it’s power because of the imbalance from over management. As these fires burn, throughout the west and around the world, they are forever disrupting and destroying not only homes of the two-legged, but also many lives and homes of the animal, plant and tree Nations.
After much time spent on educating the Forest Service on the importance of our role as the Original Caretakers of this Land. We feel great sadness for the Forest Service as they have given the Indigenous Elders and Medicine Peoples Council no choice. The choice to violate our own cultural protocols or face legal implications is not consistent with creating a working relationship with Indigenous Peoples. The holy/sacred fire will continue. We refuse to participate in this atrocity; it is up to the Forest Service to determine whether they will disrupt these prayers. We will have no part in this act! Our prayers are to protect the sanctity of the threatened sacred/holy mountain including forgiving those that continue to desecrate life. We are spiritual people and we maintain peace through our ceremonies.
We are united under the Creator’s Law. We are from various Indigenous Nations and are spiritually related. We have been placed on our lands as Aboriginal Indigenous Nations of the People with sacred instructions and responsibilities placed within us by the Creator to follow the Laws of the Creator. Federal agencies use terms like federally recognized and federally unrecognized. We see this as your way of dividing the Indigenous Peoples. We are united under the Creator’s Law, as United Indigenous Nations, to protect and extend Life for all future generations.
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNCIL
Chief, Arvol Looking Horse
19th Generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe
Lakota, Dakota and Nakota Nations
Bobby C. Billie
Clan Leader and Spiritual Leader
Council of the Original Miccosukee
Simanolee Nation Aboriginal People
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